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This is why.

What is wrong with our system? That "they" care more for those killing us than for the ones doing the saving?

This shit sucks.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
Depression seems to be treated as weakness by the armed services and not treated like a real problem. Here's another story about someone who was IN military care, committed suicide and no one noticed for two days.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/WoodruffReports/story?id=3067983&page=1

The problem is that when you are depressed and/or have PTSD it is so very hard to ask for help. How can you ask for help from someone who tells you you are weak for asking?

Date: 2007-04-24 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i think that's awful too. if you are finally going to someone for help, you should at least be heard.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
I think that's the real issue in that story. Most of the time if you have an injury to your leg or you're missing and extremity they will help you. But if you have an injury of the spirit/mind it's not visible and not taken seriously.

I also think it's completely ridiculous that you get a dishonorable discharge for trying to commit suicide when superiors actively ignore warning signs. Which then screws you for getting benefits.

The whole system is fucked. And I don't just mean the VA system.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i hear ya.

i wish i could hear the OTHER side of the story. the story of WHY it's okay to ignore this, or why she wasn't listened to.

i'm really into the WHY of things.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, me too. If this person were related to me you better believe I would be bugging the living hell out of the clerks in that office.

Then again, in normal hospitals people are treated the same way. Unless you have someone that's willing to be a complete bastard to get you what you need, it's highly likely you won't be getting the attention you deserve.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
one of the issues we've had with normal doctors with my grandfather is that NO ONE is listening to my aunt or mother.

like, for YEARS my aunt and mother have been saying that my grandfather has a certain level of anxiety and whatnot.

you know who the same fucking doctors FINALLY listened to? my aunt's husband.

they were convinced that my grandfather's daughters were just "tired" of hearing him complain.

uh, NO??? why would he be taken to the hospital all the time if no one was taking his concerns to heart.

it always depends on who you get to listen to you, in whatever situation.

fucking sucks.

Date: 2007-04-24 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
Oh man.. I hope that's not a "females are crazy and complain all the time" thing. That would piss me off even more. :/

I hate when people don't listen to me... but will completely agree with the same exact thing coming from a male. And men wonder why we get so irate. ;)

Date: 2007-04-24 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
yep. it is actually. the doctor thought my mom & aunt were overly emotional. HI!! it's their DAD. duh.

hehehe ;)

Date: 2007-04-24 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
This is also why I like female Drs :)

Date: 2007-04-24 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
yar. mine listens to me.

my male doctors never did. but they were old too. so it could be the male or old thing. or both. or something.

Date: 2007-04-25 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the2wittybird.livejournal.com
sucks to say, but i strongly believe it WAS because you were female...

NOT right, and yea it's part of the reason i also prefer a female doctor. But there i digest.

almost seems that if you want serious care, you need to bring the ol' male relative with ya...which ain't right...

Date: 2007-04-25 03:17 am (UTC)

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