Heh.

Jul. 26th, 2006 11:00 pm
synnoveaevael: (Upside down)
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It ain't redneck.

It's Elizabethan.

Duh.

I read somewhere once that they speak a purer form of Gaelic in the Appalachian Mountains than is spoken in Scotland.

I really wouldn't be surprised at it.

Date: 2006-07-27 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aifacat.livejournal.com
Wow - that was really interesting...and funny that I could translate a lot of that without help from the author.

Date: 2006-07-27 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i know! hehe :D

Date: 2006-07-27 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redshira.livejournal.com
That was fascinating. I'm glad to see I didn't actually need the translations (hooray for a linguistics background!), and interested to note that some of the phrases are things I've grown up hearing from my east London family.

Date: 2006-07-27 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i love that kind of stuff.

tis spiffie!

Date: 2006-07-27 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-strider.livejournal.com
That was great.

That was Cool.

Date: 2006-07-27 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garthic.livejournal.com
Very interesting. Have you seen the Movie "Songcatcher" (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210299/)?

Re: That was Cool.

Date: 2006-07-27 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i'd never even HEARD of it! i'd love to see it :)

Date: 2006-07-27 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emyrldlady.livejournal.com
::blinkblink:: we read entirely too many romance novels not to know of which they speak.

Date: 2006-07-27 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i KNOW. heheheh

Date: 2006-07-27 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
Wow. I had no idea. That's amazing. :D

Date: 2006-07-27 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
idn't it? i love that crap.

Date: 2006-07-27 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
haha me too. I'm a random knowledge sponge! FEED ME! ;)

Date: 2006-07-27 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
ME TOO!

do you KICK ASS at jeopardy?

Date: 2006-07-27 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
Sometimes... I really suck at the sports questions! ;)

Date: 2006-07-27 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
yo. me too.

that shit is dumb. heheh

Date: 2006-07-27 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaryl.livejournal.com
I can't believe people can remember players from like 20 years ago and what stats people get every year. bleh.

Date: 2006-07-27 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
I KNOW!

i call it idiot savantness. cause damn.

Date: 2006-07-27 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quoth-the-maven.livejournal.com
STRUMPET CANDY!!!


You know that scene in Fried Green Tomatoes where they're over by the tree and Igdy (or however you spell her name) gets the honey and Ruth calls her a "bee chah-muh...that's wut you ah...a bee chah-muh." When I was younger, that totally boggled my mind, because the accent sounded so...British. It was weird.

If you go to Gatlinburg, and you talk to some of the people who are pure locals and run some of the older shops, apparently they use this language. "Redneck" language is simply a thick Southern accent, and doesn't use much variation on truly bad English. Appalacian dialect is an entirely different thing. Just thought I'd clear that up. ;-)

Date: 2006-07-27 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
lol..

redneck, to us city folk, is pretty much spoke anywhere there are people living in the woods. hehehe.. and to read the article, a lot of the vernacular used is very "redneck" speak.

hehehe.. fried green tomatoes never sounded british to me, but i dig that you thought it did :) hehehe

Date: 2006-07-27 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quoth-the-maven.livejournal.com
Watch it again. Listen for that part. If you were a Southerner, you might be able to catch it more, I guess.

You have a Jersey accent. If someone classified everyone who lived in Jersey, NYC...hell, let's throw Boston in there for shits and giggles...if someone classified all of them as simply "Northern" accents, wouldn't that be a little weird? Because even in NYC, there are about 3 or 4 specific burroughs that have seriously different accents. And Jersey and Boston sound only vaguely alike. So calling all of our Southern accents "Redneck" simply by virtue of them having a twang is something of the same thing. Know what I mean?

Date: 2006-07-27 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
perhaps. to me it just sounds southern.

well. they are northern accents. people from the south have said i sounded "northern". the typical "jersey" accent is not that of jersey at all, but of mahnattan. people in jersey don't talk like that at all.

boston accents aren't like jersey accents at ALL, they're more irish than anything. throwing the r's in where they don't belong and taking them out where they DO belong.

it's all an area thing. hell, you can break it down further. people in south jersey don't sound ANYTHING like people in north jersey. "begel" for bagel "wahder" for water and "phune" for phone.. shit like that.

but generally speaking, northerns sound different than southerns, mason dixon wise.

Date: 2006-07-27 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quoth-the-maven.livejournal.com
Well, obviously my point was proven, because I made a classification that you didn't agree with, and you corrected me. That's how I feel about people generalizing southern accents as "redneck", regardless of the location. :-)

Date: 2006-07-27 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
i didn't correct you, really.

i *was* just proving your point, that northern accents are just "northern" to southerners and "southern" accents are just that to northerns.

but in either area, you can break it down further. even by sections of state.

redneck, to northeners, is southern. it's just one of those "things" that is. if there was a slang for "northern" speak, i'm sure it'd be used. prolly yankee. hehe

Date: 2006-07-27 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quoth-the-maven.livejournal.com
Yeah...most people say "yankee". I try to at least identify it by state, but I'm kind of bad at aural language recognition (except for Missouri, because my family's from there), so I usually just end up saying, "they're from somewhere up north, but I can't place the accent."

Date: 2006-07-27 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
they say people from ohio speak the closest to webster's dictionary's pronunciation guide.

i usually just say southern.

although, i'll say southern belle if it's georgia or something. hehee

Date: 2006-07-27 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quoth-the-maven.livejournal.com
Ohio? Are you serious? Weird.

Date: 2006-07-27 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synnoveaevael.livejournal.com
that's what i said. i dunno, yo.

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