I've also been That Guy - having been tossed out of a bar with a group of coworkers after we beat the snot out of a guy for groping a young lady in our group.
As to the comments, I have read some. The stories are noteworthy. I do have an observation though - the one dissenting comment I saw (I did not read through all the condensed down comments, only first comments, and I stopped after 2 pages) was pretty immediately vilified (http://cereta.livejournal.com/652008.html?thread=12201192#t12201192) - and that was a woman posting it. The originating post has drawn to it (as often happens in polarizing discussions) a very particular group of readers/commenters. One commenter (who I felt brought up some very good points and did so in a very non-attacking way) was pretty immediately attacked. He even noted that he himself was a rape victim and it was no less than 20 comments later that this was even acknowledged. The level of bias among the majority of the commenters is astounding. One in particular (at this point I have read beyond page 2) talks about distributing "how not to be mistaken for a rapist" pamphlets. Reading that comment and the responses got me rather pissed off to the point of not reading much further. Should Jared have to actively prove to the world that, just because he's black, he isn't a thug?
it's very rambling, but you wouldn't be you if you didn't go to extremes to play the unnecessary devil's advocate, lol.
i'm not saying all women are saints. far from it. but by that logic, you need to realize how many assholes are out there. as having yourself been a victim, you realize what happens. you see the things that have happened around you, or on the tv, and you become aware.
i'm going to refrain from any meghan's law comments, for obvious reasons, especially since this is a public post.
as for getting kicked out of a bar, good for you! THAT is the kind of thing we're trying to really publicize. it's OKAY to be kicked out of a stupid bar for doing the right thing.
in that thread, there are plenty of people who are flying to the bias, but that happens with all threads. if you continue to read the OPs comments, she continues to stick to her post, and does not verbally assault anyone.
rape is a sensitive subject, and that's where this boiled down too, so people are the defensive.
no one should have to prove themselves, but it'd be nice to hear more "random acts of kindness" and that's where this goes. to show young men it is okay to be a gentleman. to show them they don't have to to be insecure, and that it IS OKAY to be unpopular and respect people, (in this post, women).
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As to the comments, I have read some. The stories are noteworthy. I do have an observation though - the one dissenting comment I saw (I did not read through all the condensed down comments, only first comments, and I stopped after 2 pages) was pretty immediately vilified (http://cereta.livejournal.com/652008.html?thread=12201192#t12201192) - and that was a woman posting it. The originating post has drawn to it (as often happens in polarizing discussions) a very particular group of readers/commenters. One commenter (who I felt brought up some very good points and did so in a very non-attacking way) was pretty immediately attacked. He even noted that he himself was a rape victim and it was no less than 20 comments later that this was even acknowledged. The level of bias among the majority of the commenters is astounding. One in particular (at this point I have read beyond page 2) talks about distributing "how not to be mistaken for a rapist" pamphlets. Reading that comment and the responses got me rather pissed off to the point of not reading much further. Should Jared have to actively prove to the world that, just because he's black, he isn't a thug?
Sorry if this is overly rambling...
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i'm not saying all women are saints. far from it. but by that logic, you need to realize how many assholes are out there. as having yourself been a victim, you realize what happens. you see the things that have happened around you, or on the tv, and you become aware.
i'm going to refrain from any meghan's law comments, for obvious reasons, especially since this is a public post.
as for getting kicked out of a bar, good for you! THAT is the kind of thing we're trying to really publicize. it's OKAY to be kicked out of a stupid bar for doing the right thing.
in that thread, there are plenty of people who are flying to the bias, but that happens with all threads. if you continue to read the OPs comments, she continues to stick to her post, and does not verbally assault anyone.
rape is a sensitive subject, and that's where this boiled down too, so people are the defensive.
no one should have to prove themselves, but it'd be nice to hear more "random acts of kindness" and that's where this goes. to show young men it is okay to be a gentleman. to show them they don't have to to be insecure, and that it IS OKAY to be unpopular and respect people, (in this post, women).
do unto others. yaddah.